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		<title>By: scissor hands</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/10/19/obama-revenge-of-generation-x/comment-page-1/#comment-672</link>
		<dc:creator>scissor hands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should also clarify.  I am not vindictive.  I wish no ill will on the baby boomer.  I know they are not to blame for everything.  But to their collective children many were aggressive, intimidating, selfish.  To their parents, disrespectful.  That being said, I also realize that all around them, friends were slaughtered &amp; maimed in war, women were oppressed life was different.  But quietly, we are working through our children, &amp; those around us to teach them love, restraint, peace, tolerance, religion, conviction, &amp; self sacrifice by example.  God is working through this generation.   Faith is moving mountains.  Quietly many of us sacrifice our life &amp; our dreams so that though we are often forgotten we might influence those around us to make better choices than we, so that hopefully our existence will not be in vain.  All of us made mistakes, made wrong turns, but we learn from our mistakes and yours &amp; realize that it is our duty to do better.  Your greatest legacy as a baby boomer is that you let us fall to become greater than you expected.  You have given us wisdom that we treasure up for the opportune time.  God is with us.  He is our sword and shield.  We have a small window for a big agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should also clarify.  I am not vindictive.  I wish no ill will on the baby boomer.  I know they are not to blame for everything.  But to their collective children many were aggressive, intimidating, selfish.  To their parents, disrespectful.  That being said, I also realize that all around them, friends were slaughtered &amp; maimed in war, women were oppressed life was different.  But quietly, we are working through our children, &amp; those around us to teach them love, restraint, peace, tolerance, religion, conviction, &amp; self sacrifice by example.  God is working through this generation.   Faith is moving mountains.  Quietly many of us sacrifice our life &amp; our dreams so that though we are often forgotten we might influence those around us to make better choices than we, so that hopefully our existence will not be in vain.  All of us made mistakes, made wrong turns, but we learn from our mistakes and yours &amp; realize that it is our duty to do better.  Your greatest legacy as a baby boomer is that you let us fall to become greater than you expected.  You have given us wisdom that we treasure up for the opportune time.  God is with us.  He is our sword and shield.  We have a small window for a big agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: scissor hands</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/10/19/obama-revenge-of-generation-x/comment-page-1/#comment-671</link>
		<dc:creator>scissor hands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i for one am not a &#039;pampered&#039; xer &amp; i am angry i am bitter &amp; i do believe that we are the clean up crew for the boomers big fat party.  Not to say though that all the boomers created it.  I have often referred to the &#039;free love free drugs free sex era&#039; &amp; i really don&#039;t think that anyone pays enough attention to know what we are about.  Many of us are conservative, thanks to liberal divorce &amp; childhood abuse or neglect (one in three women sexually assaulted in my generation-though i personally believe the numbers are higher based on discussion with all the women i know) many being molested or raped by siblings or &#039;parents&#039; as a product of displaced loyalties in divorce.   Many of us are well read as a result of having to figure life out on our own.  We are vetrans.  The war has been all around us; the war of greed &amp; violence.  We have seen it in the form of racism, in hiding under our desk during a bomb drill, in broken homes, in the $4000 bill i have from bell for one year of phone &amp; internet service that i barely use.  We see it in the production &amp; importation of useless poorly made crap, in the battle to keep smut out of the faces of our children, &amp; the ever shrinking freedoms that our forefathers died to protect never suspecting the gross exploitation of them all.  What we cannot afford or wish on our children, the wealth of the baby boomer is happy to provide.  I find it odd that the loving tree hugging baby boomer turned into a collector of useless refuse (royal dalton, country geese, coke bottles, a string of fine automobiles, trinkets from peru.  The boomer refuses to retire &amp; pass the torch, there is no cap on consumption, a cruise was more important than a weekend with the family,&amp; now a man can barely afford to take his son to a yankees game.  Boomer logic is that it is better to pay a football star great wages than a man who stands in 90 degree heat working his fingers to the bone.   And we are more concerned about the aborted child than how the child got there in the first place.   This is a world that cries for change.  Make no mistake.  If a boomer retires in a cushy existance, it will be at our mercy.   There will be change.   I did not vote.  But i am not silent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i for one am not a &#8216;pampered&#8217; xer &amp; i am angry i am bitter &amp; i do believe that we are the clean up crew for the boomers big fat party.  Not to say though that all the boomers created it.  I have often referred to the &#8216;free love free drugs free sex era&#8217; &amp; i really don&#8217;t think that anyone pays enough attention to know what we are about.  Many of us are conservative, thanks to liberal divorce &amp; childhood abuse or neglect (one in three women sexually assaulted in my generation-though i personally believe the numbers are higher based on discussion with all the women i know) many being molested or raped by siblings or &#8216;parents&#8217; as a product of displaced loyalties in divorce.   Many of us are well read as a result of having to figure life out on our own.  We are vetrans.  The war has been all around us; the war of greed &amp; violence.  We have seen it in the form of racism, in hiding under our desk during a bomb drill, in broken homes, in the $4000 bill i have from bell for one year of phone &amp; internet service that i barely use.  We see it in the production &amp; importation of useless poorly made crap, in the battle to keep smut out of the faces of our children, &amp; the ever shrinking freedoms that our forefathers died to protect never suspecting the gross exploitation of them all.  What we cannot afford or wish on our children, the wealth of the baby boomer is happy to provide.  I find it odd that the loving tree hugging baby boomer turned into a collector of useless refuse (royal dalton, country geese, coke bottles, a string of fine automobiles, trinkets from peru.  The boomer refuses to retire &amp; pass the torch, there is no cap on consumption, a cruise was more important than a weekend with the family,&amp; now a man can barely afford to take his son to a yankees game.  Boomer logic is that it is better to pay a football star great wages than a man who stands in 90 degree heat working his fingers to the bone.   And we are more concerned about the aborted child than how the child got there in the first place.   This is a world that cries for change.  Make no mistake.  If a boomer retires in a cushy existance, it will be at our mercy.   There will be change.   I did not vote.  But i am not silent.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/10/19/obama-revenge-of-generation-x/comment-page-1/#comment-356</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol. Chill out Fabian, I was taking my kid to preschool when you posted.

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I think you&#039;re right about us being essentially unprincipled. Maybe very cynical about principles. But I do think there will be some rough patches ahead that might finally give rise to some new principles. My guess is that the shallowness and pettiness will give way to a more serious take on life as we face harder times. 

The generation that has the most in common with us, I think, is the &quot;lost generation&quot; that came of age around WWI and was most affected by the Great Depression. 

But as for being pampered, I don&#039;t really see that. We were far more likely to grow up in broken families and were pretty much neglected as children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol. Chill out Fabian, I was taking my kid to preschool when you posted.</p>
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<p>I think you&#8217;re right about us being essentially unprincipled. Maybe very cynical about principles. But I do think there will be some rough patches ahead that might finally give rise to some new principles. My guess is that the shallowness and pettiness will give way to a more serious take on life as we face harder times. </p>
<p>The generation that has the most in common with us, I think, is the &#8220;lost generation&#8221; that came of age around WWI and was most affected by the Great Depression. </p>
<p>But as for being pampered, I don&#8217;t really see that. We were far more likely to grow up in broken families and were pretty much neglected as children.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You took down my comment, so I guess too much criticism hurts, huh Welmer?  Just another spoiled, unprincipled, self-serving Gen X&#039;er.  Maybe you should go into politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You took down my comment, so I guess too much criticism hurts, huh Welmer?  Just another spoiled, unprincipled, self-serving Gen X&#8217;er.  Maybe you should go into politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, your post brings up some interesting points, but as a Gen X&#039;er myself, I&#039;ve often said that the one group with even fewer principles than the Boomers...is my generation.  The Boomers were the product of  the WWII generation, who were probably the most principled generation in our history.  Boomers rebelled against those principles, but at least they knew what they were rebelling against.  Gen X&#039;ers are the first fully consumer created generation.  We have no unifying experiences to rally around.  We were even more pampered than Boomers, we&#039;re spoiled, and as your post says, we think universal principles are &quot;sappy&quot;.  We&#039;ve swallowed the ridiculous post-modernist idea that there is no objective truth, which is just a ruse used by people to get you to look the other way while they advance THEIR truth.  If the post is right, and as a group we&#039;re destined to be cunning, calculating, shallow and petty, then the best days of the United States are truly behind her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, your post brings up some interesting points, but as a Gen X&#8217;er myself, I&#8217;ve often said that the one group with even fewer principles than the Boomers&#8230;is my generation.  The Boomers were the product of  the WWII generation, who were probably the most principled generation in our history.  Boomers rebelled against those principles, but at least they knew what they were rebelling against.  Gen X&#8217;ers are the first fully consumer created generation.  We have no unifying experiences to rally around.  We were even more pampered than Boomers, we&#8217;re spoiled, and as your post says, we think universal principles are &#8220;sappy&#8221;.  We&#8217;ve swallowed the ridiculous post-modernist idea that there is no objective truth, which is just a ruse used by people to get you to look the other way while they advance THEIR truth.  If the post is right, and as a group we&#8217;re destined to be cunning, calculating, shallow and petty, then the best days of the United States are truly behind her.</p>
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		<title>By: Lukobe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lukobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of leftists are going to be disappointed once Obama&#039;s president, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of leftists are going to be disappointed once Obama&#8217;s president, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I know, but that doesn&#039;t mean people aren&#039;t hoping for that. I&#039;m not sure his base of support is necessarily all that rational, although I&#039;m pretty sure they&#039;re dedicated to the cause. Take the WA state democrats for example...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I know, but that doesn&#8217;t mean people aren&#8217;t hoping for that. I&#8217;m not sure his base of support is necessarily all that rational, although I&#8217;m pretty sure they&#8217;re dedicated to the cause. Take the WA state democrats for example&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lukobe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lukobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 04:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama engage in redistribution? Regardless of what he said to Joe the Plumber, not with the CEO of JPMorgan Chase as his Secretary of the Treasury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama engage in redistribution? Regardless of what he said to Joe the Plumber, not with the CEO of JPMorgan Chase as his Secretary of the Treasury.</p>
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