<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: The Trauma that Led to Obama&#8217;s Black Nationalism</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.welmer.org/2008/11/03/the-trauma-that-led-to-obamas-black-nationalism/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/11/03/the-trauma-that-led-to-obamas-black-nationalism/</link>
	<description>Exploring the East, Revisiting the West</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:44:41 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: alan</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/11/03/the-trauma-that-led-to-obamas-black-nationalism/comment-page-1/#comment-851</link>
		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.welmer.org/?p=121#comment-851</guid>
		<description>As someone who can remember the beginnings of the whole civil rights movement and LBJ&#039;s Great Society it does seem odd how we&#039;ve moved from the original intent of a colorless, even sexless, utopia to one now based on racial and sexual identity. What happened?

Could it be a trick? Anyway, at some point Traditionalist Euros will begin to organize and demand THEIR rights and their cultural identity. There will be a white Barack Obama rediscovering his roots. His charismatic personality will attract millions of angry and confused whites, and those sympathetic to the Enlightened Christians who built American, who will awaken as from a dream and find that they needn&#039;t be apologetic at all. They will feel proud of being Enlightened Christians and will no longer look upon themselves as a virus that has polluted the earth (the now official version of history).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who can remember the beginnings of the whole civil rights movement and LBJ&#8217;s Great Society it does seem odd how we&#8217;ve moved from the original intent of a colorless, even sexless, utopia to one now based on racial and sexual identity. What happened?</p>
<p>Could it be a trick? Anyway, at some point Traditionalist Euros will begin to organize and demand THEIR rights and their cultural identity. There will be a white Barack Obama rediscovering his roots. His charismatic personality will attract millions of angry and confused whites, and those sympathetic to the Enlightened Christians who built American, who will awaken as from a dream and find that they needn&#8217;t be apologetic at all. They will feel proud of being Enlightened Christians and will no longer look upon themselves as a virus that has polluted the earth (the now official version of history).</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/11/03/the-trauma-that-led-to-obamas-black-nationalism/comment-page-1/#comment-620</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.welmer.org/?p=121#comment-620</guid>
		<description>I didn&#039;t have to read past the introduction to &quot;Dreams from my Father&quot; to note the explicitly racialist nature of Obama&#039;s perspective. My impression of him is that he is a man who, for whatever reason, actively pursued &quot;black identity&quot; (indeed African-American identity, meaning the life-history perspective of a black or mulatto descendant of Africans brought to North America as slaves - NOT the life-history perspective of a mulatto descendant of a white woman and a black African who arrived in the US voluntarily and relatively recently). He seems to have pursued this identity and embraced it fully - and as a pretender to it ; he actually seems to be more radicalized that the typical negro in the US who bears a legitimate claim to such an historical perspective. Bill&#039;s analysis here is interesting in that it posits a theoretical origin of such sentiment. I find Obama particularly disturbing in this regard because his embrace of black nationalism/radicalism (and its fundamental claims of systemic victimization at the hands of whites) are completely divorced from Obama&#039;s own life experiences (vis-a-vis whites), who by all appearances seem to have given him every opportunity - even the keys to the White House!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t have to read past the introduction to &#8220;Dreams from my Father&#8221; to note the explicitly racialist nature of Obama&#8217;s perspective. My impression of him is that he is a man who, for whatever reason, actively pursued &#8220;black identity&#8221; (indeed African-American identity, meaning the life-history perspective of a black or mulatto descendant of Africans brought to North America as slaves &#8211; NOT the life-history perspective of a mulatto descendant of a white woman and a black African who arrived in the US voluntarily and relatively recently). He seems to have pursued this identity and embraced it fully &#8211; and as a pretender to it ; he actually seems to be more radicalized that the typical negro in the US who bears a legitimate claim to such an historical perspective. Bill&#8217;s analysis here is interesting in that it posits a theoretical origin of such sentiment. I find Obama particularly disturbing in this regard because his embrace of black nationalism/radicalism (and its fundamental claims of systemic victimization at the hands of whites) are completely divorced from Obama&#8217;s own life experiences (vis-a-vis whites), who by all appearances seem to have given him every opportunity &#8211; even the keys to the White House!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: T. AKA Ricky Raw</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/11/03/the-trauma-that-led-to-obamas-black-nationalism/comment-page-1/#comment-567</link>
		<dc:creator>T. AKA Ricky Raw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.welmer.org/?p=121#comment-567</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess we’ll see how things turn out. Even if Obama is a “black radical,” Congress sure isn’t.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;d be surprised how wholeheartedly white limousine liberals will embrace black radicalism if it&#039;s presented sexily enough.  Read Tom Wolfe&#039;s short book of essays &quot;Radical Chic and Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers&quot; for a true and humorous example.  Or just google it to get a gist...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess we’ll see how things turn out. Even if Obama is a “black radical,” Congress sure isn’t.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;d be surprised how wholeheartedly white limousine liberals will embrace black radicalism if it&#8217;s presented sexily enough.  Read Tom Wolfe&#8217;s short book of essays &#8220;Radical Chic and Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers&#8221; for a true and humorous example.  Or just google it to get a gist&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/11/03/the-trauma-that-led-to-obamas-black-nationalism/comment-page-1/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.welmer.org/?p=121#comment-414</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#

9 Lukobe // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:21 pm

I guess we’ll see how things turn out. Even if Obama is a “black radical,” Congress sure isn’t.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lukobe highlights an important point here. We really have no idea how internal divisions in the Democratic party will play out. I can only say that I expect them to be entertaining. 

I wonder how many in Congress have read Obama&#039;s book. Probably not very many. I&#039;d guess somewhere around 2%. 

But before people jump Obama for defending his own, I think it&#039;s worth asking &quot;what&#039;s wrong with that?&quot; Surely there are &lt;i&gt;some&lt;/i&gt; problems with it, but it&#039;s also a good opportunity to cut through hypocrisy and give people an opportunity to decide how they want to define their own interests. Do they revolve around class, race, gender, sexuality, ethnicity, nationality or what? 

Seems to me that people in America, for the most part, are pretty confused about this. It&#039;s about time that these issues came out in the open, and Obama offers the perfect opportunity for their exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>#</p>
<p>9 Lukobe // Nov 14, 2008 at 12:21 pm</p>
<p>I guess we’ll see how things turn out. Even if Obama is a “black radical,” Congress sure isn’t.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Lukobe highlights an important point here. We really have no idea how internal divisions in the Democratic party will play out. I can only say that I expect them to be entertaining. </p>
<p>I wonder how many in Congress have read Obama&#8217;s book. Probably not very many. I&#8217;d guess somewhere around 2%. </p>
<p>But before people jump Obama for defending his own, I think it&#8217;s worth asking &#8220;what&#8217;s wrong with that?&#8221; Surely there are <i>some</i> problems with it, but it&#8217;s also a good opportunity to cut through hypocrisy and give people an opportunity to decide how they want to define their own interests. Do they revolve around class, race, gender, sexuality, ethnicity, nationality or what? </p>
<p>Seems to me that people in America, for the most part, are pretty confused about this. It&#8217;s about time that these issues came out in the open, and Obama offers the perfect opportunity for their exposure.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lukobe</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/11/03/the-trauma-that-led-to-obamas-black-nationalism/comment-page-1/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>Lukobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.welmer.org/?p=121#comment-413</guid>
		<description>I guess we&#039;ll see how things turn out. Even if Obama is a &quot;black radical,&quot; Congress sure isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we&#8217;ll see how things turn out. Even if Obama is a &#8220;black radical,&#8221; Congress sure isn&#8217;t.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Fabian</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/11/03/the-trauma-that-led-to-obamas-black-nationalism/comment-page-1/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.welmer.org/?p=121#comment-412</guid>
		<description>I might add that Obama&#039;s handlers did a masterful job of keeping him away from members of the press who would&#039;ve really pressed him about his views in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might add that Obama&#8217;s handlers did a masterful job of keeping him away from members of the press who would&#8217;ve really pressed him about his views in person.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Fabian</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/11/03/the-trauma-that-led-to-obamas-black-nationalism/comment-page-1/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.welmer.org/?p=121#comment-411</guid>
		<description>One of the biggest problems with this last election cycle was the fact that so much of the mainstream press refused to do its job and thoroughly bring Obama&#039;s past radicalism to light and question him about it.  It was certainly brought out in plenty of places in print, but most people don&#039;t read, so they never really knew about it.  In terms of mainstream TV media, only Fox News tried to bring these issues to light.  Of course, the rest of the media called it &quot;fear mongering&quot; and &quot;racist&quot; to even bring this stuff up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the biggest problems with this last election cycle was the fact that so much of the mainstream press refused to do its job and thoroughly bring Obama&#8217;s past radicalism to light and question him about it.  It was certainly brought out in plenty of places in print, but most people don&#8217;t read, so they never really knew about it.  In terms of mainstream TV media, only Fox News tried to bring these issues to light.  Of course, the rest of the media called it &#8220;fear mongering&#8221; and &#8220;racist&#8221; to even bring this stuff up.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lukobe</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/11/03/the-trauma-that-led-to-obamas-black-nationalism/comment-page-1/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>Lukobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.welmer.org/?p=121#comment-410</guid>
		<description>I must admit to not having read his biography. However, I have to think that if he were a modern Farrakhan or unreformed Malcolm X, it would have come out, and this country wouldn&#039;t have elected him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must admit to not having read his biography. However, I have to think that if he were a modern Farrakhan or unreformed Malcolm X, it would have come out, and this country wouldn&#8217;t have elected him.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: T. AKA Ricky Raw</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/11/03/the-trauma-that-led-to-obamas-black-nationalism/comment-page-1/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>T. AKA Ricky Raw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.welmer.org/?p=121#comment-398</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama is hardly a black racialist/black nationalist… not, at least, in comparison to those in this country who really deserve the label. I honestly think Obama will turn out to be far less “liberal” than people think.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Have you read his biography?  Because I find it&#039;s only people who haven&#039;t read his biography who seem to think calling him a black radical is an exaggeration.  He doesn&#039;t talk that talk now of course because he wants to get elected, but it is a part of his character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama is hardly a black racialist/black nationalist… not, at least, in comparison to those in this country who really deserve the label. I honestly think Obama will turn out to be far less “liberal” than people think.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Have you read his biography?  Because I find it&#8217;s only people who haven&#8217;t read his biography who seem to think calling him a black radical is an exaggeration.  He doesn&#8217;t talk that talk now of course because he wants to get elected, but it is a part of his character.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2008/11/03/the-trauma-that-led-to-obamas-black-nationalism/comment-page-1/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 08:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.welmer.org/?p=121#comment-389</guid>
		<description>Wow, very nice analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, very nice analysis.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Dynamic Page Served (once) in 0.625 seconds -->

