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	<title>Comments on: Law Enforcement Policy Toward Men</title>
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		<title>By: miles</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2009/05/23/law-enforcement-policy-toward-men/comment-page-1/#comment-1636</link>
		<dc:creator>miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 06:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the video Welmer. 


The suspect ran, but had stopped and recognized the police uniform (emblem on shirtsleeve) and gave up with his arms at his sides with no threatening gesture whatsoever. The cop is -entirely-at fault here. The suspect had given up and was peacefully facing him. What is supposed to happen then is you inform him that he matches the description of a suspect in a crime and will be taken into custody, and for him to slowly turn around and place his hands behind his back for you to cuff him. He will be mirandized thereafter. The guy has plenty of time to tell you that &quot;hey fellas, youve got the wrong guy&quot;. That kid didn&#039;t do anything except run, and when he started running all he saw were two big men wearing dark shirts chasing him. We dont know if he even recognized their badges or if he heard anyone yell &quot;police&quot; (how much does someone hear when running for their lives?). 

Bottom line, one son-of-a-bitch pushed a kid who had his arms at his side, obviously surrendering to be taken into custody, WHEN HE HAD BACK UP THERE, into a wall and put him into a coma. Did he mean for it to happen like that? No, but if Welmer gets in a bar fight tonight and lands a straight left uppercut on a guy&#039;s nose, and the cartilage gets hit just right and goes into that guy&#039;s brain killing him, the other dude will be just as dead, and Welmer will be just as arrested for manslaughter. 

    Its considered &quot;aggravated&quot; assault if you bodyslam someone (my state anyway) on concrete, and that wall was made of cinderblock. Aggravated Assault is what the cop should be charged with. I don&#039;t care about intent. The kids in a coma, and his family may never get his life back. It doesn&#039;t matter one whit that the injury&#039;s extent wasn&#039;t on purpose. He CERTAINLY should at least be looking for another job. The public loses faith in law enforcement when a cop gets away with abusing the public, but especially the -innocent- public (and I dont want to hear about evading arrest, he was just a scared white kid on foot, what was he going to do, call his posse on his cell?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the video Welmer. </p>
<p>The suspect ran, but had stopped and recognized the police uniform (emblem on shirtsleeve) and gave up with his arms at his sides with no threatening gesture whatsoever. The cop is -entirely-at fault here. The suspect had given up and was peacefully facing him. What is supposed to happen then is you inform him that he matches the description of a suspect in a crime and will be taken into custody, and for him to slowly turn around and place his hands behind his back for you to cuff him. He will be mirandized thereafter. The guy has plenty of time to tell you that &#8220;hey fellas, youve got the wrong guy&#8221;. That kid didn&#8217;t do anything except run, and when he started running all he saw were two big men wearing dark shirts chasing him. We dont know if he even recognized their badges or if he heard anyone yell &#8220;police&#8221; (how much does someone hear when running for their lives?). </p>
<p>Bottom line, one son-of-a-bitch pushed a kid who had his arms at his side, obviously surrendering to be taken into custody, WHEN HE HAD BACK UP THERE, into a wall and put him into a coma. Did he mean for it to happen like that? No, but if Welmer gets in a bar fight tonight and lands a straight left uppercut on a guy&#8217;s nose, and the cartilage gets hit just right and goes into that guy&#8217;s brain killing him, the other dude will be just as dead, and Welmer will be just as arrested for manslaughter. </p>
<p>    Its considered &#8220;aggravated&#8221; assault if you bodyslam someone (my state anyway) on concrete, and that wall was made of cinderblock. Aggravated Assault is what the cop should be charged with. I don&#8217;t care about intent. The kids in a coma, and his family may never get his life back. It doesn&#8217;t matter one whit that the injury&#8217;s extent wasn&#8217;t on purpose. He CERTAINLY should at least be looking for another job. The public loses faith in law enforcement when a cop gets away with abusing the public, but especially the -innocent- public (and I dont want to hear about evading arrest, he was just a scared white kid on foot, what was he going to do, call his posse on his cell?).</p>
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		<title>By: Thras</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2009/05/23/law-enforcement-policy-toward-men/comment-page-1/#comment-1616</link>
		<dc:creator>Thras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 16:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing can be done unless the bad apples can be removed from the police force. That would mean breaking the unions, among other things. It would probably also mean fixing the overall American culture that produces the uniformed thugs. I don&#039;t know how to do that.

Now, one of the intelligent things to do is get more tazers into the hands of cops. The media&#039;s reporting on tazers is 180 degrees from reality.  I want the cops trying to arrest me to have tazers. It&#039;s by far the safest way to take me down, for me and them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing can be done unless the bad apples can be removed from the police force. That would mean breaking the unions, among other things. It would probably also mean fixing the overall American culture that produces the uniformed thugs. I don&#8217;t know how to do that.</p>
<p>Now, one of the intelligent things to do is get more tazers into the hands of cops. The media&#8217;s reporting on tazers is 180 degrees from reality.  I want the cops trying to arrest me to have tazers. It&#8217;s by far the safest way to take me down, for me and them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebel</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2009/05/23/law-enforcement-policy-toward-men/comment-page-1/#comment-1609</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 15:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only solution I can think of is to emigrate.

Do not stay in a country intent on killing you because you are male.

Run and don&#039;t look back. Leave the &quot;land of the free&quot; before you are put in jail until you die.

Most of all, do not expect anything good from your government if you are a man.

There are many places in the world where life is still worth living.

The U.S. are on their way down, sinking. Abandon ship!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only solution I can think of is to emigrate.</p>
<p>Do not stay in a country intent on killing you because you are male.</p>
<p>Run and don&#8217;t look back. Leave the &#8220;land of the free&#8221; before you are put in jail until you die.</p>
<p>Most of all, do not expect anything good from your government if you are a man.</p>
<p>There are many places in the world where life is still worth living.</p>
<p>The U.S. are on their way down, sinking. Abandon ship!!</p>
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