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	<title>Comments on: Lesbians and Family Law in Seattle</title>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2009/05/25/lesbians-and-family-law-in-seattle/comment-page-1/#comment-1849</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 21:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it is likely that lesbians will ever ally themselves with anything remotely good for fathers.   Use your original logic: the more lesbian co-mothers there are, the less need and space for biological fathers.  That is simply numerical fact.  

Children need fathers, period, end of discussion, no compromise.  Any weakening of that core principle is wandering down the path of defeat.   Surely you see that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it is likely that lesbians will ever ally themselves with anything remotely good for fathers.   Use your original logic: the more lesbian co-mothers there are, the less need and space for biological fathers.  That is simply numerical fact.  </p>
<p>Children need fathers, period, end of discussion, no compromise.  Any weakening of that core principle is wandering down the path of defeat.   Surely you see that?</p>
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		<title>By: novaseeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>novaseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 14:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s a good point that once this gets going, and more lesbians (who are generally entrenched in the women&#039;s movement, as we know) are adversely impacted by the winner-take-all system of family law, some of them may be encouraged to join with those of us who seek change in this area.

From the few cases I am familiar with (one in Boston and another one here in Virginia), the birth mother gets pretty much the same deferential treatment as a heterosexual wife does.  Again once these cases get to be more numerous, that will start to cause some rancor, I think --- particularly when the birth mother moves to a state like Virginia, which doesn&#039;t recognize out of state same-sex civil unions, to deny her ex-wife any and all custodial rights whatsoever (true story).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a good point that once this gets going, and more lesbians (who are generally entrenched in the women&#8217;s movement, as we know) are adversely impacted by the winner-take-all system of family law, some of them may be encouraged to join with those of us who seek change in this area.</p>
<p>From the few cases I am familiar with (one in Boston and another one here in Virginia), the birth mother gets pretty much the same deferential treatment as a heterosexual wife does.  Again once these cases get to be more numerous, that will start to cause some rancor, I think &#8212; particularly when the birth mother moves to a state like Virginia, which doesn&#8217;t recognize out of state same-sex civil unions, to deny her ex-wife any and all custodial rights whatsoever (true story).</p>
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