Comments on: Men’s Sanctuaries

By: Curiepoint

Curiepoint — Sun, 31 May 2009 14:43:30 +0000

Ever notice that services promoted as being for men always mentions women and their needs in the first paragraph? Yet, the name of the group is “Men In Transition”. That suggests that whether you are a man or a woman, it’s the man that needs to “transition” I’m betting that any woman in the above mentioned group serves a single purpose…to speak about how horrible her life was at the hands of her husband/boyfriend/adulerous lover, and that her story serves as an example of how the men present need to change.

Guys, we are fourth-class citizens in Western society. We are below women, gays, and tranny men. It is not acceptable to the power elite for men to gather in numbers for any purpose, because to allow it would be to allow men to think and plan amongst themselves. By banning men-only organizations, the enemy can thin our herd.

The only way I can see men-only groups and clubs is to do it the way early Christians did, by keeping meeting places fluid, and with secrecy in identifying and recognizing one another. The Masons used to be like this, but even they have to allow women in now.

By: Lukobe

Lukobe — Fri, 29 May 2009 08:53:52 +0000

The spammers have found you!

By: LW

LW — Thu, 28 May 2009 22:04:10 +0000

What about stuff like this? http://www.menintransition.com/groups.html

By: novaseeker

novaseeker — Wed, 27 May 2009 18:42:36 +0000

Yes Roissy’s place and a few forums perform that function, but as Lukobe says, in-person stuff is key.

By: Lukobe

Lukobe — Wed, 27 May 2009 18:39:59 +0000

Yes, but of course the Web is no substitute for in-person interaction.

By: Default User

Default User — Wed, 27 May 2009 15:20:30 +0000

I think that is why Roissy has become popular. His blog comments are a “sanctuary” for men. It is sort of a gentlemen/workingman club.

While it focuses on pickup, you can see that many other male concerns are raised as well.

It is true that woman “are allowed” and even get flirted with etc. But they are still a sideshow and do not really alter the masculine atmosphere.

By: novaseeker

novaseeker — Wed, 27 May 2009 13:56:10 +0000

That sounds like a good service, Lukobe, for men who are in that kind of situation. I know that talk therapy was very helpful for me when I was going through my divorce. It’s great to see a center dedicated to that — there aren’t enough of those.

My idea, though, was more along the lines of what Niko or Miles were talking about –> something where men can gather, regardless of whether they are in a tough spot or not. I think Niko has it right when he says that men tend to lose social networks as we age. That is a dramatic difference from how things used to be — men used to have social networks that persisted for their lives, and they relied on them. That’s the kind of thing we need to recreate.

By: Niko

Niko — Wed, 27 May 2009 04:51:53 +0000

I actually use a local soccer club as a substitute to the local pub. Just helps create social networks which men tend to loose as we age.

Something non denominational, along the lines of an amalgamation of a YMCA, Masonic hall, Shelter, Poor Clerks etc.

By: Lukobe

Lukobe — Wed, 27 May 2009 04:46:07 +0000

What about stuff like this? http://www.menintransition.com/groups.html

By: miles

miles — Wed, 27 May 2009 01:51:07 +0000

Private Club?

Put in on the outskirts of town on a working farm so it pays for itself. Net access, pool tables, private screening facility, library, fishing pond, small weightroom, walking trail, bar facility, several bed and breakfast-type rooms. That would take a staff of at least a couple of people though. It would take fees to be a member of that club.

A club of this type would inevitably become a center of power as men could coordinate financial and political activities from therein in secret. Im not in Seattle, but thats an idea.

I empathize with the plight of guys who have been put through the legal wringer with ex’s. Ive got several friends who have suffered the same.