Comments on: Shield Laws and False Convictions http://www.welmer.org/2009/06/25/shield-laws-and-false-convictions/ Exploring the East, Revisiting the West Tue, 18 Jan 2011 22:44:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Jeff http://www.welmer.org/2009/06/25/shield-laws-and-false-convictions/comment-page-1/#comment-2556 Jeff Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:55:32 +0000 http://www.welmer.org/?p=281#comment-2556 There are many differences in a woman being raped and being emotionally scarred and a person that is a victim of paternity fraud. Being raped is more physically traumatic, where as in paternity fraud you are scared more emotionally by the fact of the woman’s deception, the child that you thought was once yours and is not and are constantly reminded of it every time someone asks you about children and every month you write a check to this person that has irreparably hurt you. It changes the way you think of woman, our legal system, the state and federal government, senators, representative, every time you see a man and woman walking around with a child you think is that child really his, you become a second class citizens that society allows your constitutional rights to be violated, it is difficult to trust anyone. Every time you try to fight back the system constantly suppressed you and continues to victimize you as though you are the guilty one, you should have known better then to trust this person. In reality it is worse than rape as far as being a victim, because at least if you are a rape victim you get some sort of restitution for the perpetrator being prosecuted, were as if you are a paternity fraud victim you get just the opposite in which you continue to pay the perpetrator. You make decisions such as getting a vasectomy, because you have been deceived into believing you have a child while the perpetrator knowing lets it happen and sits by and says nothing. For the life of me I cannot understand how any system does not understand how cruel it is to have a person commit paternity fraud on you. This is cruel and inhumane just as rape and it and should not be treated any differently. It tears your heart out, rips at your stomach, destroys your focus, hurts you inside, changes how you see things, taints you views, tears at your trust, makes it difficult to have another relationship, depresses you. Without a doubt rape and paternity fraud are disgustingly outrageous act that should not be tolerated in any civilized society. The perpetrators in either one of these situations prey on their victims, with the significant difference being that a rapist is punished by law and society and the female perpetrator of paternity fraud is rewarded. It is beyond my comprehension that this is really happening and I wish it were all just a dream and would wake up and this really was not happening. This does not even begin to describe the child that has been victimized by this heinous crime and the best thing that our government can do is make the other victim pay the perpetrator and label them as an unwanted visitor (visitation), because of the wake of destruction that the perpetrator has created. I could write a book on the effects of paternity fraud, but I will stop here in hope that the readers will read this small response. There are many differences in a woman being raped and being emotionally scarred and a person that is a victim of paternity fraud. Being raped is more physically traumatic, where as in paternity fraud you are scared more emotionally by the fact of the woman’s deception, the child that you thought was once yours and is not and are constantly reminded of it every time someone asks you about children and every month you write a check to this person that has irreparably hurt you. It changes the way you think of woman, our legal system, the state and federal government, senators, representative, every time you see a man and woman walking around with a child you think is that child really his, you become a second class citizens that society allows your constitutional rights to be violated, it is difficult to trust anyone. Every time you try to fight back the system constantly suppressed you and continues to victimize you as though you are the guilty one, you should have known better then to trust this person. In reality it is worse than rape as far as being a victim, because at least if you are a rape victim you get some sort of restitution for the perpetrator being prosecuted, were as if you are a paternity fraud victim you get just the opposite in which you continue to pay the perpetrator. You make decisions such as getting a vasectomy, because you have been deceived into believing you have a child while the perpetrator knowing lets it happen and sits by and says nothing. For the life of me I cannot understand how any system does not understand how cruel it is to have a person commit paternity fraud on you. This is cruel and inhumane just as rape and it and should not be treated any differently. It tears your heart out, rips at your stomach, destroys your focus, hurts you inside, changes how you see things, taints you views, tears at your trust, makes it difficult to have another relationship, depresses you. Without a doubt rape and paternity fraud are disgustingly outrageous act that should not be tolerated in any civilized society. The perpetrators in either one of these situations prey on their victims, with the significant difference being that a rapist is punished by law and society and the female perpetrator of paternity fraud is rewarded. It is beyond my comprehension that this is really happening and I wish it were all just a dream and would wake up and this really was not happening. This does not even begin to describe the child that has been victimized by this heinous crime and the best thing that our government can do is make the other victim pay the perpetrator and label them as an unwanted visitor (visitation), because of the wake of destruction that the perpetrator has created. I could write a book on the effects of paternity fraud, but I will stop here in hope that the readers will read this small response.

]]> By: Welmer http://www.welmer.org/2009/06/25/shield-laws-and-false-convictions/comment-page-1/#comment-2527 Welmer Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:33:20 +0000 http://www.welmer.org/?p=281#comment-2527 <blockquote>miles // Jun 25, 2009 at 7:21 pm My opinion is that there isn’t enough decent paying work for lower-IQ’ed males because so much of it has been shipped away, that despair, addiction, overshowing of masculinity is a way many of them express their discontent with their circumstances.</blockquote> That is a very good point. The American economy has been distorted in a way that deprives many ordinary men of an opportunity to contribute anything at all, even though they do have the ability and desire to do so. I'd like to address this problem, because it is crucial to economic justice -- a concept that has been thoroughly abused and twisted to justify depriving men of the ability to make a living.

miles // Jun 25, 2009 at 7:21 pm

My opinion is that there isn’t enough decent paying work for lower-IQ’ed males because so much of it has been shipped away, that despair, addiction, overshowing of masculinity is a way many of them express their discontent with their circumstances.

That is a very good point. The American economy has been distorted in a way that deprives many ordinary men of an opportunity to contribute anything at all, even though they do have the ability and desire to do so.

I’d like to address this problem, because it is crucial to economic justice — a concept that has been thoroughly abused and twisted to justify depriving men of the ability to make a living.

]]> By: miles http://www.welmer.org/2009/06/25/shield-laws-and-false-convictions/comment-page-1/#comment-2525 miles Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:21:20 +0000 http://www.welmer.org/?p=281#comment-2525 Welmer wrote: "and suggests that there are probably thousands of innocent men in prison even as you read these words" Yes, this is certainly the case. Paul Craig Roberts has written about this several times. "TestiLYING" is practically a cornerstone of some cops in law enforcement. If you want the truth, hardly anybody in any juristiction has more real *power* than your local district attorney if he/she really gets on your case. If it were not for DNA, Mike Nifong would be the reason several white boys from Duke would be in jail being raped daily right now, just because he could. DNA evidence should be practically NECESSARY for a rape conviction. You are going to leave some evidence (saliva, pubic hairs, body hairs, head hairs, fingerprints, noseprints---yes there is such a thing as noseprints, and who knows what else behind after a rape. When you think about it.................something really is amiss in our nation when one considers the incarceration rate. Its crazy to have this many people behind bars. Either we have cultivated some rather irresponsible people (we certainly have) or we are feeding a prison business (also true), but there is something beyond that. My opinion is that there isn't enough decent paying work for lower-IQ'ed males because so much of it has been shipped away, that despair, addiction, overshowing of masculinity is a way many of them express their discontent with their circumstances. Welmer wrote:

“and suggests that there are probably thousands of innocent men in prison even as you read these words”

Yes, this is certainly the case. Paul Craig Roberts has written about this several times. “TestiLYING” is practically a cornerstone of some cops in law enforcement. If you want the truth, hardly anybody in any juristiction has more real *power* than your local district attorney if he/she really gets on your case. If it were not for DNA, Mike Nifong would be the reason several white boys from Duke would be in jail being raped daily right now, just because he could.

DNA evidence should be practically NECESSARY for a rape conviction. You are going to leave some evidence (saliva, pubic hairs, body hairs, head hairs, fingerprints, noseprints—yes there is such a thing as noseprints, and who knows what else behind after a rape.

When you think about it……………..something really is amiss in our nation when one considers the incarceration rate. Its crazy to have this many people behind bars. Either we have cultivated some rather irresponsible people (we certainly have) or we are feeding a prison business (also true), but there is something beyond that. My opinion is that there isn’t enough decent paying work for lower-IQ’ed males because so much of it has been shipped away, that despair, addiction, overshowing of masculinity is a way many of them express their discontent with their circumstances.

]]> By: Lukobe http://www.welmer.org/2009/06/25/shield-laws-and-false-convictions/comment-page-1/#comment-2516 Lukobe Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:56:01 +0000 http://www.welmer.org/?p=281#comment-2516 Could be. It's a good argument for the abolition, or at the very least, <i>extremely</i> severe restriction, of the death penalty, anyway. Could be. It’s a good argument for the abolition, or at the very least, extremely severe restriction, of the death penalty, anyway.

]]> By: Puma http://www.welmer.org/2009/06/25/shield-laws-and-false-convictions/comment-page-1/#comment-2511 Puma Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:15:32 +0000 http://www.welmer.org/?p=281#comment-2511 <i>metaphysical effect on the alleged victim that goes beyond any other crime</i> You mean like Paternity Fraud? When the victim is the one who is enslaved. When the victim dies a genetic metadeath because he has lost the window to sire his own children, and is stripped of the means/assets to sire his own during his remaining years on Earth? metaphysical effect on the alleged victim that goes beyond any other crime

You mean like Paternity Fraud? When the victim is the one who is enslaved. When the victim dies a genetic metadeath because he has lost the window to sire his own children, and is stripped of the means/assets to sire his own during his remaining years on Earth?

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