It’s slightly different, though, isn’t it? China is not a nation of immigrants. It is multi-ethnic, and I am sure most of the ethnic groups did not originate in the lands where they now live, but it’s not like the U.S. in the sense that whites have only been in Seattle, say, for 150 years.

America is currently home to three large nationalities: “white” American, “black” American, and Mexican. You are part of the first by culture.

True. But “white American culture” of course isn’t monolithic. I’m part of a subset.

If it weren’t for the extremely symbolic nature of African blood in this country, Obama would be as well (and he probably wouldn’t be president).

Fair enough.

White American – as we know from the countless examples of Americans with Indian blood – does not mean “pure Aryan out to conquer the world and exterminate others.” Rather, it’s a kind of recognizable type with a great number of variations in the states (e.g. Jersey Italian/Jewish, Boston Irish, Vermont English, Tennessee Scots Irish, Iowa German, etc.), just like Chinese are generally recognizable as Chinese, but vary quite widely across their large territory.

Also fair enough. But I am worried that not enough people see it as reasonably and rationally as you do, and will take “American nativism” and “dilution of white culture” to extremes.

As for the Indians, what really did them in was disease, which decimated them throughout North America (higher mortality lasted well into the 20th century), leaving the land pretty much free for the taking.

Sure. And I’m not one of those who would suggest we all leave America to its original inhabitants. I’m just worried about people painting with too broad a brush.

So before you get too upset about what Justin is getting at, think about the fact that most of the immigrants coming into America now are not assimilated like you and do not appear to want to be, are mainly part of a large, rival nation that shares a border with us, and are likely to consolidate and dominate a large part of our country in the southwest. Does this make them bad people? No, but it isn’t necessarily good for us, and it’s perfectly reasonable to resist it based on nativist sentiments.

Again, fair enough, but:
1) They could simply argue they are repossessing land that was once theirs (I know it’s not simple, and I don’t buy that argument, but the Southwest did use to be part of Mexico, at least nominally)
2) I am again worried that people will use the anti-illegal-immigration-from-the-south argument against all immigrants. Asian immigrants, for example, tend to be all too happy to integrate.

America is currently home to three large nationalities: “white” American, “black” American, and Mexican. You are part of the first by culture. If it weren’t for the extremely symbolic nature of African blood in this country, Obama would be as well (and he probably wouldn’t be president).

White American – as we know from the countless examples of Americans with Indian blood – does not mean “pure Aryan out to conquer the world and exterminate others.” Rather, it’s a kind of recognizable type with a great number of variations in the states (e.g. Jersey Italian/Jewish, Boston Irish, Vermont English, Tennessee Scots Irish, Iowa German, etc.), just like Chinese are generally recognizable as Chinese, but vary quite widely across their large territory.

As for the Indians, what really did them in was disease, which decimated them throughout North America (higher mortality lasted well into the 20th century), leaving the land pretty much free for the taking.

So before you get too upset about what Justin is getting at, think about the fact that most of the immigrants coming into America now are not assimilated like you and do not appear to want to be, are mainly part of a large, rival nation that shares a border with us, and are likely to consolidate and dominate a large part of our country in the southwest. Does this make them bad people? No, but it isn’t necessarily good for us, and it’s perfectly reasonable to resist it based on nativist sentiments.

Go to SoCal sometime and you’ll see it pretty clearly. Hell, even Yakima should give you a pretty good idea of what’s happening.

As for hordes of immigrants, I’m sorry that the United States isn’t a 18th-century Jeffersonian pastoral democracy. Or are you excepting the, say, Germans and Irish that arrived in the 19th century? What about the Jews and Italians? Are they OK? The Asians? Or is this more about the Mexicans?

Believe me, I am not in favor of mass, illegal, immigration, but I’d be interested to know when your family got here, and why you think they have any more of a right to be here than my family does. Where do you make the cutoff?

The alien incursion issue is universal. Any native population can be marginalized if its land is swamped by foreigners. Whatever your race is, the swamping of America now will be bad for your genetic prosperity, because of the overcrowding and resource competition that your offspring will face.

And, of course, as far as “alien incursion” goes, no mention of cases in which Europeans were behind the incursion…