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		<title>By: SPLICE — Hollywood is Finally Getting it Right! &#171; Antimisandry org</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2009/08/26/social-conservatism-and-the-lot-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-5455</link>
		<dc:creator>SPLICE — Hollywood is Finally Getting it Right! &#171; Antimisandry org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and less-tainted-by-feminism version of his current wife.  I’m sure Welmer would note the Jungian undertones, though one might question whether Dren truly qualifies as his daughter, since he has no DNA in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and less-tainted-by-feminism version of his current wife.  I’m sure Welmer would note the Jungian undertones, though one might question whether Dren truly qualifies as his daughter, since he has no DNA in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SPLICE &#8212; Hollywood is Finally Getting it Right!</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2009/08/26/social-conservatism-and-the-lot-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-5445</link>
		<dc:creator>SPLICE &#8212; Hollywood is Finally Getting it Right!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and less-tainted-by-feminism version of his current wife.  I’m sure Welmer would note the Jungian undertones, though one might question whether Dren truly qualifies as his daughter, since he has no DNA in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and less-tainted-by-feminism version of his current wife.  I’m sure Welmer would note the Jungian undertones, though one might question whether Dren truly qualifies as his daughter, since he has no DNA in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Democrats and Republicans Unite to Form the Misandry Party</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2009/08/26/social-conservatism-and-the-lot-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-5408</link>
		<dc:creator>Democrats and Republicans Unite to Form the Misandry Party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] endorses heavy-handed regulations on men to protect &#8220;innocent&#8221; young women. To excerpt Welmer again: They [social conservatives] are not driven as much by an altruistic desire to improve society as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] endorses heavy-handed regulations on men to protect &#8220;innocent&#8221; young women. To excerpt Welmer again: They [social conservatives] are not driven as much by an altruistic desire to improve society as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WZ</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2009/08/26/social-conservatism-and-the-lot-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-4558</link>
		<dc:creator>WZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;I think the desire to be chivalrous results from showing interest in what a man really loves–whether it is a friend or a date.&#039;

Whatever definition of chivalry you might have, I reject it.

Chivalry is vassalage and mounted combat - both of which require self-control and courtesy.  The &quot;courtly love&quot; business is a separate thing.

However, the notion of chivalry as protection of the weak is relevant to the twisted &quot;father-daughter&quot; meme.  Judges in divorce cases are acting like ultra-powerful father-figures.  Power is a rush.  Judges who cannot be corrupted by money can be corrupted by the thrill of wrecking a man&#039;s life.

&quot;Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I think the desire to be chivalrous results from showing interest in what a man really loves–whether it is a friend or a date.&#8217;</p>
<p>Whatever definition of chivalry you might have, I reject it.</p>
<p>Chivalry is vassalage and mounted combat &#8211; both of which require self-control and courtesy.  The &#8220;courtly love&#8221; business is a separate thing.</p>
<p>However, the notion of chivalry as protection of the weak is relevant to the twisted &#8220;father-daughter&#8221; meme.  Judges in divorce cases are acting like ultra-powerful father-figures.  Power is a rush.  Judges who cannot be corrupted by money can be corrupted by the thrill of wrecking a man&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>&#8220;Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Savvy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Savvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 08:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chivalry is still alive and well--and even the gays can be chivalrous.  I was hanging out with a bunch of gay guys and my best friend from childhood.  I got a tour of the house and just listened to this guy talk about all he had done to the house--which was fascinating.  When it came time to leave, he walked us out to the car to make sure we got there safely.  I think the desire to be chivalrous results from showing interest in what a man really loves--whether it is a friend or a date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chivalry is still alive and well&#8211;and even the gays can be chivalrous.  I was hanging out with a bunch of gay guys and my best friend from childhood.  I got a tour of the house and just listened to this guy talk about all he had done to the house&#8211;which was fascinating.  When it came time to leave, he walked us out to the car to make sure we got there safely.  I think the desire to be chivalrous results from showing interest in what a man really loves&#8211;whether it is a friend or a date.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i thought for sure you were going to draw an analogy between women and the snake nest scene in &quot;Lonesome Dove&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thought for sure you were going to draw an analogy between women and the snake nest scene in &#8220;Lonesome Dove&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Welmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Welmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is pathological in either of the cases you describe, jz. 

There is another way. I was thinking about it today while walking in the tall grass of Genessee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is pathological in either of the cases you describe, jz. </p>
<p>There is another way. I was thinking about it today while walking in the tall grass of Genessee.</p>
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		<title>By: jz</title>
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		<dc:creator>jz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand your Husband-son/wife-mother pathology, and how it plays out to the detriment of young men. 

I&#039;ve seen the reciprocal (mostly in older generations) :  Husband-father/wife-child. The husband dominates and tramples the wife until her esteem, emotional and sexual passion wilts. 

In the later case, it would be interesting to speculate as to who suffers or advantages from his brand of patriarchy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your Husband-son/wife-mother pathology, and how it plays out to the detriment of young men. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen the reciprocal (mostly in older generations) :  Husband-father/wife-child. The husband dominates and tramples the wife until her esteem, emotional and sexual passion wilts. </p>
<p>In the later case, it would be interesting to speculate as to who suffers or advantages from his brand of patriarchy.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A war of all against all...  

That is all that seems to remain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A war of all against all&#8230;  </p>
<p>That is all that seems to remain.</p>
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		<title>By: njartist49</title>
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		<dc:creator>njartist49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mother/ son religion is Babylonian mystery religion; Roman Catholicism is the main practitioner of this age.  
I made the mistake of attending a RC charismatic meeting and was shocked to hear the priest refer to the husbands of the women attending as boys; no such allusion was made of the women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mother/ son religion is Babylonian mystery religion; Roman Catholicism is the main practitioner of this age.<br />
I made the mistake of attending a RC charismatic meeting and was shocked to hear the priest refer to the husbands of the women attending as boys; no such allusion was made of the women.</p>
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