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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 30 years old..  For me it was a combination of things I think.. 

I guess it started when I realized and felt very viscerally that something was not right with our social construct and the malcontent I felt with the erie isolation of the disconnected family, friendship structure, and dating life..  

I found, along with every guy friend I know that women were remarkably isolated from my day to day environment.  So like many of my friends I turned to the online dating thing.  

Everyone I know is spread all over the country and some if not most move from job to job. These are high paid professions mind you. So for me it was increasing feelings of isolation, marginalization from the workforce along with my other tech/engineer friends and utter horror I&#039;ve witnessed my brother and others be subjected to in the family court system and divorce....

  I think it is a general sense of disenfranchisement. A feeling that men are not a part of the family and have been made superflourious and disposable to the family unit.

All I knew is that I did not want to end up an isolated resource producing male for a woman that was not my wife and a child that I am not allowed to be a father to. 

 I started to put things together and stopped watching TV or the News for that matter. It&#039;s been about 8 years since I&#039;ve watched TV for the most part. 

I disconnected from our ill society and my internal dialog began to awaken.  It was a new awakening. I felt like neo from the matrix. when I do get a glimpse of pop culture I am ever so much more aware of the illness.  

  I also took a Women&#039;s Studies course and college that changed my life forever.. I knew then and there that I was not a part of this system anymore. I knew that we as men have been forced to serve women directly and through government.   I want no part of this.  I am white and male.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 30 years old..  For me it was a combination of things I think.. </p>
<p>I guess it started when I realized and felt very viscerally that something was not right with our social construct and the malcontent I felt with the erie isolation of the disconnected family, friendship structure, and dating life..  </p>
<p>I found, along with every guy friend I know that women were remarkably isolated from my day to day environment.  So like many of my friends I turned to the online dating thing.  </p>
<p>Everyone I know is spread all over the country and some if not most move from job to job. These are high paid professions mind you. So for me it was increasing feelings of isolation, marginalization from the workforce along with my other tech/engineer friends and utter horror I&#8217;ve witnessed my brother and others be subjected to in the family court system and divorce&#8230;.</p>
<p>  I think it is a general sense of disenfranchisement. A feeling that men are not a part of the family and have been made superflourious and disposable to the family unit.</p>
<p>All I knew is that I did not want to end up an isolated resource producing male for a woman that was not my wife and a child that I am not allowed to be a father to. </p>
<p> I started to put things together and stopped watching TV or the News for that matter. It&#8217;s been about 8 years since I&#8217;ve watched TV for the most part. </p>
<p>I disconnected from our ill society and my internal dialog began to awaken.  It was a new awakening. I felt like neo from the matrix. when I do get a glimpse of pop culture I am ever so much more aware of the illness.  </p>
<p>  I also took a Women&#8217;s Studies course and college that changed my life forever.. I knew then and there that I was not a part of this system anymore. I knew that we as men have been forced to serve women directly and through government.   I want no part of this.  I am white and male.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Emdee.  Your story is a solid validation of that viewpoint.</description>
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		<title>By: Dating Book</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dating Book</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: emdee1973</title>
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		<dc:creator>emdee1973</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“With Obama in charge, those of us who are conservative/libertarian are becoming more radicalized, less willing to work within established institutions, and more eager to find our own path.” Todd, your statement really struck a chord with me. This is exactly how I feel. I am an unemployed civil engineer who specializes in transportation infrastructure. I’m struggling to find work. The engineering and construction sectors were supposed to get a lot of ARRA funding, but thanks to the feminists and Obama’s lack of temerity, much of this funding was diverted to education, healthcare, and social work,  i.e. occupations with high percentages of women workers. (See “No Country for Burly Men” by Christina Hoff-Sommers.) Obama clearly is not looking out for the working man. He hasn’t the courage, as he’s so aptly demonstrated. Given the current administration’s stance on gender and the ever-increasing influence of Marxo-Feminism, I wish more than ever to shuck the established institutions and chart my own path. I will not, indeed I cannot, function in a woman’s world. For me, life and liberty don’t exist in such a place and the pursuit of happiness would be utterly futile. Moreover, I am becoming more radicalized, as you put it. These “women”, if you can call them that, have hurt me directly. I should be out there fixing the nation’s roads, earning a good income, and moving forward in life. But thanks to the feminists, at least in part, I’m not. Thus, the conflict has suddenly become very personal. I’ve been quietly observing the feminists’ tactics for about a decade now. What was once a simmering pot is now on the verge of boiling over. Now I&#039;m angry. Now I&#039;m ready to pick up the sword, so to speak. What alternative is there? Even dumbest beast will fight an agressor tooth and nail if she backs it into a corner. Is this really so radical? I think not. More and more men are reaching this understanding. In any case your statement was an excellent articulation. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“With Obama in charge, those of us who are conservative/libertarian are becoming more radicalized, less willing to work within established institutions, and more eager to find our own path.” Todd, your statement really struck a chord with me. This is exactly how I feel. I am an unemployed civil engineer who specializes in transportation infrastructure. I’m struggling to find work. The engineering and construction sectors were supposed to get a lot of ARRA funding, but thanks to the feminists and Obama’s lack of temerity, much of this funding was diverted to education, healthcare, and social work,  i.e. occupations with high percentages of women workers. (See “No Country for Burly Men” by Christina Hoff-Sommers.) Obama clearly is not looking out for the working man. He hasn’t the courage, as he’s so aptly demonstrated. Given the current administration’s stance on gender and the ever-increasing influence of Marxo-Feminism, I wish more than ever to shuck the established institutions and chart my own path. I will not, indeed I cannot, function in a woman’s world. For me, life and liberty don’t exist in such a place and the pursuit of happiness would be utterly futile. Moreover, I am becoming more radicalized, as you put it. These “women”, if you can call them that, have hurt me directly. I should be out there fixing the nation’s roads, earning a good income, and moving forward in life. But thanks to the feminists, at least in part, I’m not. Thus, the conflict has suddenly become very personal. I’ve been quietly observing the feminists’ tactics for about a decade now. What was once a simmering pot is now on the verge of boiling over. Now I&#8217;m angry. Now I&#8217;m ready to pick up the sword, so to speak. What alternative is there? Even dumbest beast will fight an agressor tooth and nail if she backs it into a corner. Is this really so radical? I think not. More and more men are reaching this understanding. In any case your statement was an excellent articulation. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: emdee1973</title>
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		<dc:creator>emdee1973</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 22:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;With Obama in charge, those of us who are conservative/libertarian are becoming more radicalized, less willing to work within established institutions, and more eager to find our own path.&quot; Todd, your statement really struck a chord with me. This is exactly how I feel. I am an unemployed civil engineer who specializes in transportation infrastructure. I&#039;m struggling to find work. The engineering and construction sectors were supposed to get a lot of ARRA funding, but thanks to the feminists and Obama&#039;s lack of temerity, much of this funding was diverted to education, healthcare, social work, etc., i.e. occupations with high percentages of women workers.  (See &quot;No Country for Burly Men&quot; by Christina Hoff-Sommers.) Obama clearly is  not looking out for the working man. He hasn&#039;t the courage, as he&#039;s so aptly demonstrated. Given the current administration&#039;s stance on gender, the ever-increasing influence of Marxo-Feminism, I wish more than ever to shuck the established institutions and chart my own path. I will not, indeed I cannot, function in a woman&#039;s world. For me, life and liberty don&#039;t exist in such a place and the pursuit of happiness would be entirely futile.  Moreover, I am becoming more radicalized, as you put it. These &quot;women&quot;, if you can call them that, have hurt me directly. I should be out there  fixing the nation&#039;s roads, earning a good income, and moving forward with in life. But thanks to them, at least in part, I&#039;m not. Thus, it&#039;s suddenly become very personal. I&#039;ve been observing the feminists&#039; tactics for about a decade now. What was once a simmering pot is now on the verge of boiling over.  I&#039;m starting to get really pissed. I think a lot of men feel the same way. Your statement was spot on from my perspective, an excellent articulation. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;With Obama in charge, those of us who are conservative/libertarian are becoming more radicalized, less willing to work within established institutions, and more eager to find our own path.&#8221; Todd, your statement really struck a chord with me. This is exactly how I feel. I am an unemployed civil engineer who specializes in transportation infrastructure. I&#8217;m struggling to find work. The engineering and construction sectors were supposed to get a lot of ARRA funding, but thanks to the feminists and Obama&#8217;s lack of temerity, much of this funding was diverted to education, healthcare, social work, etc., i.e. occupations with high percentages of women workers.  (See &#8220;No Country for Burly Men&#8221; by Christina Hoff-Sommers.) Obama clearly is  not looking out for the working man. He hasn&#8217;t the courage, as he&#8217;s so aptly demonstrated. Given the current administration&#8217;s stance on gender, the ever-increasing influence of Marxo-Feminism, I wish more than ever to shuck the established institutions and chart my own path. I will not, indeed I cannot, function in a woman&#8217;s world. For me, life and liberty don&#8217;t exist in such a place and the pursuit of happiness would be entirely futile.  Moreover, I am becoming more radicalized, as you put it. These &#8220;women&#8221;, if you can call them that, have hurt me directly. I should be out there  fixing the nation&#8217;s roads, earning a good income, and moving forward with in life. But thanks to them, at least in part, I&#8217;m not. Thus, it&#8217;s suddenly become very personal. I&#8217;ve been observing the feminists&#8217; tactics for about a decade now. What was once a simmering pot is now on the verge of boiling over.  I&#8217;m starting to get really pissed. I think a lot of men feel the same way. Your statement was spot on from my perspective, an excellent articulation. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Puma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us not forget Tom Leykis. Although he has now been silenced with a golden-handcuff, he was one of the first and most widely heard voices of MRA ideas mingling with PUA themes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us not forget Tom Leykis. Although he has now been silenced with a golden-handcuff, he was one of the first and most widely heard voices of MRA ideas mingling with PUA themes.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you, Lukobe.</description>
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		<title>By: dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lukobe, what is a leftatarian and how can that possibly not be a contradiction in terms?  please answer on &quot;knife wielding woman&quot; if you want to discuss it with me, i don&#039;t want to hijack this thread</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lukobe, what is a leftatarian and how can that possibly not be a contradiction in terms?  please answer on &#8220;knife wielding woman&#8221; if you want to discuss it with me, i don&#8217;t want to hijack this thread</p>
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		<title>By: Lukobe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lukobe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not really a part of either, but I&#039;d think &quot;game&quot; and &quot;men&#039;s movement&quot; should be separate concepts. Not all who subscribe to the former subscribe to the latter, and vice versa.

And don&#039;t forget about us leftatarians ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not really a part of either, but I&#8217;d think &#8220;game&#8221; and &#8220;men&#8217;s movement&#8221; should be separate concepts. Not all who subscribe to the former subscribe to the latter, and vice versa.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget about us leftatarians <img src='http://www.welmer.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Todd White</title>
		<link>http://www.welmer.org/2009/09/03/how-did-this-sudden-awareness-emerge/comment-page-1/#comment-4928</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 04:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll throw one idea against the wall and see if it sticks...

The &quot;Game movement&quot; is a manifestation of the breakdown of elite authority and trust in America&#039;s defining institutions (government, mass media, organized religion, universities, Wall Street,  etc.)

I once called the year 2006 &quot;The Year of Shattered Illusions&quot; because there were so many news events that undermined faith in our leaders and crippled hope in our future.

You date the emergence of &quot;men&#039;s liberation&quot; to &quot;2 years ago.&quot; That aligns with my theory that 2006/2007 was a critical point in time.

And now, in 2009, those trends are accelerating.

With Obama in charge, those of us who are conservative/libertarian are becoming more radicalized, less willing to work within established institutions, and more eager to find our own path.

If what I&#039;m suggesting has any degree of truth, the Game/Men&#039;s Movement has major room for growth.  And it might grow quite rapidly.

-TW</description>
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<p>The &#8220;Game movement&#8221; is a manifestation of the breakdown of elite authority and trust in America&#8217;s defining institutions (government, mass media, organized religion, universities, Wall Street,  etc.)</p>
<p>I once called the year 2006 &#8220;The Year of Shattered Illusions&#8221; because there were so many news events that undermined faith in our leaders and crippled hope in our future.</p>
<p>You date the emergence of &#8220;men&#8217;s liberation&#8221; to &#8220;2 years ago.&#8221; That aligns with my theory that 2006/2007 was a critical point in time.</p>
<p>And now, in 2009, those trends are accelerating.</p>
<p>With Obama in charge, those of us who are conservative/libertarian are becoming more radicalized, less willing to work within established institutions, and more eager to find our own path.</p>
<p>If what I&#8217;m suggesting has any degree of truth, the Game/Men&#8217;s Movement has major room for growth.  And it might grow quite rapidly.</p>
<p>-TW</p>
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